Senate impeachment trial: Trump's defense team aims to poke holes in Democratic case

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The defense counsel's presentation Saturday sought to poke holes in the Democratic case, arguing the House didn't provide the full context during their argument and using snippets of witness testimony from the House Intelligence Committee to argue there was no quid pro quo with Ukraine.

"We don't believe that they have come anywhere close to meeting their burden for what they're asking you to do," White House counsel Pat Cipollone said. "In fact, we believe that when you hear the facts, and that's what we intend to cover today -- the facts -- you will find that the President did absolutely nothing wrong."

Unlike Tuesday's arguments over rules for the trial, the President's defense team came prepared with visual aids -- PowerPoint slides and videos -- to supplement their argument, like the House impeachment managers. They played clips from the impeachment inquiry hearings they say the Democrats failed to show during their three-day presentation.

The first clip the defense team played was House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff, the lead impeachment manager, describing the President's phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at a September hearing -- comments that Republicans and the President have attacked for months.

As Trump lawyer Mike Purpura showed the video, Schiff looked at him and watched along without expression.

The President's personal attorney Jay Sekulow told the Senators to "put ourselves in the shoes of the President of the United States," outlining the investigation into his 2016 campaign and the Robert Mueller investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election as justification for why Trump would not "blindly trust" his administration's intelligence agencies.

"Disagreeing with the President's decisions on foreign policy matters or whose advice he's going to take is in no way an impeachable offense," Sekulow argued.

Sekulow emphasized that Zelensky has said the call was "normal" and that "nobody pushed me."

"They think you can read minds. I think you look at the words," Sekulow said of Zelensky's previous remarks.

Deputy counsel to the President Patrick Philbin argued that the House process was unfair to the President and the subpoenas they issued weren't legitimate -- and he referenced the whistleblower for the first time toward the conclusion of his remarks.

Cipollone began by noting that the President's team did not plan to use the entire 24 hours allotted to them, adding that his team would "finish efficiently and quickly so that we can all go have an election."

The House impeachment managers said that the President's team failed to actually address the evidence like conditioning military aid and soliciting foreign interference, and Schiff brushed aside the Republican criticisms of his closing on Friday.

"The problem they have is they don't want to talk about the evidence," Schiff said. "You know as a prosecutor I've seen it time and time again -- when your client is guilty, when your client is dead to rights you don't want to talk about your clients guilt, you want to attack the prosecution. It is a fairly elemental strategy. And I think that's all you're see here is that effort to distract."

Senate Democrats said that the defense team showed the need for evidence, particularly when they argued about the importance of cross-examination.

Sen. Doug Jones of Alabama, one of the few Democrats whom Republicans hope to flip, said he was stunned that the defense team argued "cross examination is the great truth seeker -- We're not getting it."

"The American people deserve the truth. This is not just a criminal case to try to poke holes," Jones said.

Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia, another potential Democratic crossover, told CNN that Trump's team did a "good job" and are "making me think about things."

"One thing that stuck in my mind is they said there isn't a witness they have had so far that had direct contact with the President. I'd love to hear from (acting White House chief of staff Mick) Mulvaney and (former national security adviser John) Bolton."

Asked if he's thinking about acquittal, Manchin said: "I'll be very impartial 'til the end."

The President's team is delivering its presentation as White House and Senate GOP sources say they are confident they will defeat a vote next week for additional witnesses that would extend the trial beyond next week. The sources say they are likely to lose two GOP votes, but expect to keep the defections under the four that Democrats would need to subpoena more witnesses and documents, and if the vote fails the Senate could move to acquit Trump by the end of next week.

Republican senators on Saturday praised the performance of the President's lawyers, led by Cipollone and Sekulow, after Saturday's two-hour session.

The White House and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell they have been laying the groundwork for weeks to lock down opposition to moving forward with new witnesses, including a lunch this week with former George W. Bush administration Attorney General Michael Mukasey to argue that calling witnesses could spark thorny legal issues with executive privilege.

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Sekulow has signaled that the defense team is likely to go after former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden, as well as the Russia investigation into the President and the opposition research dossier from ex-British intelligence agent Christopher Steele.

"They opened up the door as wide as a double-door on the Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Burisma issue -- I guess that was their way of getting ahead of it -- we will address it," Sekulow said on Friday. "Joe Biden was charged as vice president of the United States with Ukraine policy. That was his specific charge. His son went to work ... for the board of a Ukrainian gas company."

But on Saturday as the team spoke, there were no mentions of the former vice president or his son as they broadly laid out the case.

Schiff delivered a lengthy and full-throated argument for removing the President from office to conclude the House's opening argument Friday evening. The House managers took time in their presentation to try to get ahead of the arguments they're anticipating from the President's team, and Schiff used a significant portion of his closing speech Friday to run through the President's arguments that the Bidens were corrupt, that Trump had reason to withheld the aid to Ukraine and that the process was unfair.

"When they say the process was unfair, what they really mean is don't look at what the President did," Schiff said.

Trump, meanwhile, offered some advice to his legal team Friday ahead of their arguments in an interview with Fox News.

"What my people have to do is just be honest, just tell the truth," he said.

This story has been updated with additional developments Saturday.

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